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  • joyriver July 2011
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    Reply to @pavitra: :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
  • mangal July 2011
    Posts: 489
    It is interesting how on sw...TV grows the count of other swamis lectures, his thinking is very clear-Asuras said that in yidl we have cult of personality (as Stalin...) and therefore i will show more people from yidl now:) Yes then we can (not seriosly) admit-in yidl isnt such cult, of course, other swamis act as free persons, but on the other hand-if there is more marionnetes in theatre play it doesnot mean, that there is not one puppeteer......
  • VeritasVeritas July 2011
    Posts: 218
    Reply to @mangal:
    I think this is just part of the new "gentle retirement politics". Slowly remove SM as figurehead and replace him by others in order to save the organization.
  • mangal July 2011
    Posts: 489
    Reply to @Veritas: Maybe it is both, show and politics, the whole circus with tituls show it.....now mr. Mahamandaleshwar sit as XXX, very nice-it will be like Romans Empire-as they divided it into east and west part of empire:) Isnt so hard to know , who will lead west part of new feudal empire:)
  • mangal July 2011
    Posts: 489
    It will be interesting how he will transfer his enourmous power on other sadhus.......i think that in case of hare krsna it didnt succesfull. It is logical-he had enough time to change minds of his sadhus (and create puppets from them-they love it) but that sadhus will face more obtacles and when his autority disappeare, that they will be in troubles and some of them surely misuse their new power as very clean sadhus from harekrsna did. But there is no other possibility-maybe the show with Avat...but this child will have very hard position.......
  • NoviSadCalling August 2011
    Posts: 175
    To be clear what we are REALLY dealing with - I'm writing down excerpt from Serbian criminal code. I suppose this kind of law is similiar in other countries, too.


    Criminal Code of Serbia, Article 388 – Human Trafficking

    *** Human trafficking ***

    *** Article 388 ***

    (1) Whoever by force or threat, deception or maintaining deception, abuse of authority, trust, dependency relationship, difficult circumstances of another, retaining identity papers or by giving or accepting money or other benefit, recruits, transports, transfers, sells, buys, acts as intermediary in sale, hides or holds another person aimed at exploiting such person’s labour, forced labour, commission of offenses, prostitution, other forms of sexual exploitation, begging, pornography, establishing slavery or slavery-like relation, the removal of organs or body parts or service in armed conflicts,

    shall be punished by imprisonment of three to twelve years.

    (2) When the offense specified in Paragraph 1 of this Article is committed against a minor, the offender shall be punished by the penalty prescribed for that offense even if there was no use of force, threat or any of the other mentioned methods of perpetration.

    (3) If the offense specified in Paragraph 1 of this Article is committed against a minor, the offender shall be punished by imprisonment of not less than five years.

    (4) If the offense specified in Paragraphs 1 and 3 of this Article resulted in grave bodily injury of a person,

    the offender shall be punished by imprisonment of five to fifteen years.

    (5) If the offense specified in Paragraphs 1 and 3 of this Article resulted in death of one or more persons,

    the offender shall be punished by imprisonment of not less than ten years.

    (6) Whoever habitually engages in offenses specified in Paragraphs 1 to 3 of this Article or if the offense is committed by a group,

    shall be punished by imprisonment of not less than five years.

    (7) If the offense specified in Paragraphs 1 to 3 of this Article is committed by an organized group,

    the offender shall be punished by imprisonment of not less than ten years.

    (8) Whoever knew or could have known that a person is the victim of trafficking, but nevertheless made use of her/his position or facilitated another person to make use of her/his position for the purpose of exploitation referred to in Paragraph 1 of this Article,

    shall be punished by imprisonment of six months to five years.

    (9) If the offense referred to in Paragraph 8 of this Article was committed against a minor of which fact the offender was or could have been aware,

    such offender shall be punished by imprisonment of one to eight years.

    (10) The consent to exploitation or to the establishment of slavery or slavery-like relation referred to in paragraph 1 of this Article has no bearing on the existence of criminal offense referred to in Paragraphs 1, 2 and 6 of this Article.
  • PallasAthene August 2011
    Posts: 246
  • truthseeker August 2011
    Posts: 541
    Reply to @PallasAthene: amazing how much of what they say in the film is similar to YiDL. Different cults definitely use the same intiricate mechanisms to catch people. But when a person is in the middle of it, the claim he or she is in a cult sounds ridiculous to him/her. Everybody thinks, "I would never caught up in a cult, that only happens to other, stupid people".
  • batawebatawe August 2011
    Posts: 409
    yeah, I saw this video some time ago, funny sh--t;); many elements are necessary to feel the 'urgency', NOW is the time, time is running out!!! There is nothing greater than the unconditional love;)) If you believe someone who promises you "unconditional love" then you are already hooked; and if you are not living up to your potential, then the path to become better has begun...(and the process of betterment is infinite; the Ideal becomes ever-evasive-Beyond;)

    And if promise of spiritual awakening is rendered to you, relatively rational and acceptable for the future betterment of your body-mind-soul, then the VAGUENESS of the spiritual progress can begin! Sacrifice thy EGO! Trust the MESSIAH!

    Do the technique and repeat it, it will reveal the TRUTH!

    Let our doctrine think for you!

    And if you can't meditate sometimes then chant and sing!

    Time is NOW! Surrender to the Master/Law!!!

    Do not disobey the knowers of Truth, they are not human, they are Gods; it's up to you: either you have belief in them or not, but if you don't believe them, then you're not going to be saved...

    Ego=No Truth:-:-:-:-:No-Ego=Truth => KILL thy EGO! Get salvation!
  • mangal August 2011
    Posts: 489
    I would like to know, how many people are in Strilky-I know-one could not judge on the base of lack of info, but when I see the photos and read more than 800 people.....and when we know how XXX and his organizers love to make little cheats with photos-gather here especially young one, fill empty space in front of camera.....
    when I look at photos from Strilky-I cannot see more than 300 persons-I told yesterday 400, but now is new photo from Strilky on yidl page, and the second part (I expected 200 people) look at most on 100 people.......But I admitt I can be wrong, but I would ask yidl-just for asure us-please-give photo of all people (what is problem to make such photo?). Just for honest info. Thank you.
  • PallasAthene September 2011
    Posts: 246
    "The spirit molecule"

    a very interesting documentation. It better should not to be understood as a commendation to generate meditative experiences by consuming chemical hormons.

    DMT is a hormon produced naturally in the body. The precursor of DMT is an essential amino acid tryptophan, which can be found in all animals, plants and human's bodies.

    The part which seems important to me was the idea that meditation could support the production of "naturally occurring psychedelic compound"s. The spiritual voyage as a simple result of alpha waves?

    One of the interviewed persons, a DMT volunteer, said that reality is what we see. Really nice if you are looking for the truth and the reported feelings of such trip with DMT are as real as the taste of our coffee in the morning. ;)

    Perhaps our reality, including our spiritual experiences are not so important as we suppose to. More important could be the assimilation of such experiences, leading us according to the interviewed volunteers in a recognition of being one. Therefore the tasted dualistic world seems to be the prefect room for a lesson.

    Also a fine matter was the hint of s.o. not to fall into the trap of such impressive and most beautiful experiences by consuming DMT. "He should come back" At that point I remembered that the feeling of happiness reaching a certain state through meditation could be an obstacle to go further on your spiritual path. What a divine congruent melting. :)


  • VeritasVeritas September 2011
    Posts: 218
    "What makes the individual vulnerable to being swept up in a cult?
    How do followers loose their sense of morality? Result from the study suggests that moments
    of group conviction and belonging, are simply manifestations of an overstimulated temporal lobe, that cult devotion might just be the symptom of micro-seizures in the brain - and that perhaps people with an over-active temporal lobe are more vulnerable to manipulation."

  • %5BDeleted+User%5D[Deleted User] September 2011
    Posts: 0
    Reply to @Veritas:
    thank you for making me rooling laughter
  • falseswamijifalseswamiji September 2011
    Posts: 255
    We are organizing a meeting with Angela in Split, Croatia, on Tuesday 6.9. 2011. , 6 pm. at Sustipan hill (once old Split's graveyard, now a beautiful park ).
    Everyone with sincere heart and open mind is invited to come and to talk, to ask questions.
  • PallasAthene September 2011
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  • someonefromhungary September 2011
    Posts: 334
    Reply to @PallasAthene: :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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  • PallasAthene September 2011
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  • someonefromhungary September 2011
    Posts: 334
    Reply to @PallasAthene: you must be another member of the alan watts fan club :) :) :)
  • PallasAthene September 2011
    Posts: 246
    Reply to @someonefromhungary:

    Ok, let us go to the top. ;))))

  • someonefromhungary September 2011
    Posts: 334
    Reply to @PallasAthene: :) :) :) :) :) :) :) surprise button pushed :D :D :D :D
  • speakup September 2011
    Posts: 57
    Reply to @PallasAthene: These are amazing, I haven't heard of Alan Watts before - really ahead of his time, thanks for sharing :):):)
  • Shivashakti September 2011
    Posts: 75
    Reply to @PallasAthene: i love it, thanks for posting..

    "Although many viewed Watts as a guru, he was adamant that he wasn't. He once said "The thought that I'm a guru cracks me up. Because I know me." Watts said of gurus "They were people who would pick your pocket and sell you back your own watch." Watts simply called himself "A spiritual entertainer, with nothing at all to sell". He claimed his roll was liberative, since all any of us really needs is already within us"
  • speakup September 2011
    Posts: 57
    When you listen to this man talk he is so clear, so logical, so wise - SO different from the disjointed raves of Big O...."seva, guru seva ... guru bhakti ...bla..bla..bla"
  • PallasAthene September 2011
    Posts: 246
    He is wonderful because he set you free...:))) and he knows the western way of thinking. Combining this with his knowledge of eastern wisdom makes his talks to a pleasure or treasure for anybody who is on the path or wants to use the tools. Therewith he opens wide rooms. He confronts us with the programming of our culture and the blindness out of it.
  • mangal September 2011
    Posts: 489
    Sadhvi Parv...i asks all decent yoga people-please-now is the time to help: from 28.9. to 5.10. we "the honest and decent people from yidl" will pray to the Durga-divine mother. Our goal is-to finish this horrible smear campaign.
    We "the honest and decent people in forum" should join such prayer. Thank you very much-I am sure that prayer which were asked to be done by people from yidl are very successful: Especially Fukushima one-we were asked to pray: "The water in nuclear power plant in Fukushima-please, we caused your pain, please-purify yourself and forgive us." I think it can win the most mad pray in this year. But I am affraid that water from nuclear plant from Fukushima didnt noticed-or just a few people were able to do such crazy thing and therefore the prayer was not fulfiled..........but of course-the last one will come true. Please-do the favour to Parv..i and finish your dirty game. At least one pray must come true, thank you. Otherwise one could think that yidl prayers are not successful......mahamandaleshwar for whom we made prayer before left this world, water are full of radiation as before, therefore this one must come off.
  • truthseeker September 2011
    Posts: 541
    Reply to @mangal: I guess the only thing us dirty campaigners can do against this is start counterpraying. I can say openly now that we are a part of a Roman-Catholic conspiracy, Storymaker found this out, so let's do 108 Holy Mary's a day, shall we? :-)
  • pavitra September 2011
    Posts: 270
    this is a nice competition: I'll join. So from 28.9. to 5.10. "the honest and decent people from yidl" will pray to the Durga-divine mother and we "honest and decent Roman's fighters" will pray to Holy Mary. Let see who will win.
  • Nasralpuri September 2011
    Posts: 12
    I certainly don't want to advertize here my asuric services (because it would be against the rules of this forum). However, as the leader of the asuras, an ancient, well-connected and respected demon, perhaps I could make a (rather obvious) suggestion that someone might like to pray to me (to make it a three-way race).

    Nasralpanam Nasral Havir
    Nasralagnau Nasrala Hutam
    Nasrava Tena Gantavyam
    Nasrat Karma Samaadhinaha
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